Who this is for
- US C corporations, such as GPU cloud, chip and hardware startups, that raised money on SAFEs or convertible notes
- Startups preparing their first Form 1120 after a SAFE or note round
- Startups whose SAFEs or notes convert at a priced round
Not covered here
- How investors are taxed on SAFEs and notes
- Accounting standards classification and audits
- Drafting or negotiating SAFE or note terms, and securities filings
- 409A valuations and valuing the conversion
- Investment or fundraising advice
- Foreign investment review of a foreign investor
SAFE money is not taxable to the company that raises it. A SAFE (simple agreement for future equity) is paid for the company's future stock, and section 1032 says a corporation recognizes "no gain or loss" on money received for its stock, or on the lapse or acquisition of an option on its stock. Convertible note money is borrowed, and a loan is not income. The IRS has issued no ruling or regulation on SAFEs, but nothing in the statute makes the money taxable to the issuer.
The common mistake is bookkeeping, not law: a bank feed codes the SAFE wire as sales. The questions that need judgment are elsewhere: when note interest is deductible, whether a note that converts automatically keeps that deduction, withholding for a holder abroad, and the holders' QSBS clock. Gather the signed SAFEs and notes, the cap table, each holder's tax form (W-9 or W-8), and the closing documents of the priced round.
SAFE vs convertible note at a glance
The SAFE and the note differ mainly in interest. Everything else on the company's return follows from that.
| Point | SAFE | Convertible note |
|---|---|---|
| Money in | Not income (section 1032) | Not income (a loan) |
| Page 1 of Form 1120 | Nothing | Interest deduction on line 18 |
| Schedule L | Where the books carry it | Notes payable, plus accrued interest |
| Interest | None | Deductible on the timing rules below |
| Costs to raise | Capitalized | Deducted over the note's term |
| At conversion | No gain, no loss | No gain, no loss; accrued interest is paid in shares |
| Holder abroad | Nothing to withhold: a SAFE pays no interest | Interest and OID may need withholding |
Is a SAFE debt or equity for tax, and has the IRS said?
The IRS has not said. No ruling, regulation or published guidance addresses SAFEs. For the company, the label matters less than it seems: section 1032 covers money received for stock and the lapse or acquisition of an option on stock, and Reg. 1.1032-1(a) applies "regardless of the nature of the transaction". The label matters more to investors, whose side this page does not cover.
Is a SAFE tax deductible? Not for the company, which neither deducts nor reports the money as income; and an investor generally deducts nothing until the shares are sold.
How do we record a SAFE or convertible note on the balance sheet?
A SAFE or note goes on the balance sheet, never in revenue. Whether a SAFE is a liability or equity on the books depends on the company's accounting framework, and an auditor may reclassify it. That choice does not change the tax answer.
| Event | SAFE | Convertible note |
|---|---|---|
| Money received | Debit cash; credit SAFE (liability or equity, as the framework says) | Debit cash; credit convertible notes payable |
| Each period | Nothing, unless the framework requires a fair-value change | Debit interest expense; credit accrued interest |
| Priced round | Close the SAFE into preferred stock at par and paid-in capital | Close the note and accrued interest into preferred stock at par and paid-in capital |
How do SAFEs and notes show on our first Form 1120?
Page 1 shows nothing from a SAFE: no income and no deduction. The money shows on Schedule L, the balance sheet per books. A corporation may skip Schedules L, M-1 and M-2 only if total receipts and year-end total assets are both under $250,000 (Schedule K, question 13). Unspent round money alone usually reaches that figure, so most funded startups must complete all three.
Schedule L has no SAFE line. On the current Form 1120:
| Item | Schedule L line |
|---|---|
| Notes due within 1 year | Line 17 |
| Notes due in 1 year or more | Line 20 |
| Accrued note interest | Line 18, other current liabilities, with a statement |
| Note from an existing shareholder, such as a founder bridge | Line 19, loans from shareholders |
| SAFE carried as a liability | Line 21, other liabilities, with a statement |
| SAFE carried as equity, and stock after conversion | Lines 22 and 23, capital stock and paid-in capital |
Schedule M-1 reconciles book income to the return. If your books record something the return does not, such as a fair-value change on a SAFE carried as a liability, interest disallowed for tax, or book interest that differs from the tax OID figure, that difference goes on Schedule M-1. A corporation with total assets of $10,000,000 or more at year-end files Schedule M-3 instead, which a GPU cloud that buys its own servers can reach. Deadline, extension and record basics are in your first business tax return. If the early years produce a loss, the carryforward and the 80% limit, and whether a priced round triggers the section 382 cap, are in how C corporations are taxed.
Is convertible note interest deductible, and in which year?
Convertible note interest is deductible, and the year depends on how the note pays it.
- Paid in cash at least once a year at one fixed rate. That is qualified stated interest (Reg. 1.1273-1(c)(1)(i)).
- Accrued and paid at maturity, or in shares at conversion. That is original issue discount (OID), deducted each year by the constant yield method (interest compounds on the growing balance, so each year's amount is a little larger) (section 163(e)(1); Reg. 1.163-7(a)).
| The note's interest | Cash-method company deducts | Accrual-method company deducts |
|---|---|---|
| Paid in cash at least yearly at one fixed rate | When paid | As it accrues |
| Accrues to maturity or is paid in shares (OID) | Each year as it accrues, even unpaid | Each year as it accrues, even unpaid |
| Note due within 1 year of issue | Only when paid | As it accrues |
| Holder is a related foreign person | Only when paid | Only when paid |
The details behind the table:
- De minimis OID. If OID is below 0.25% of the amount due at maturity times the complete years to maturity, the company treats all stated interest as qualified stated interest (Reg. 1.1273-1(d); Reg. 1.163-7(b)(1)).
- Notes of 1 year or less. For a cash-method company, interest on a note maturing within 1 year of issue is deductible only when paid (section 163(e)(2)(C)). Many seed notes run 12 months.
- A related foreign holder. If the holder is a foreign person related to the company under section 267(b) (generally owning more than 50% of the stock's value, counting shares held by family such as a parent, spouse or sibling under section 267(c)), OID is deductible only when paid (section 163(e)(3)), and so is any other interest the company owes that holder (Reg. 1.267(a)-3(b)(1)).
The conversion feature does not add interest of its own (Reg. 1.1273-2(j)), though that rule is written for an option to convert, not an automatic conversion. A startup that meets the small business gross receipts test is exempt from the business interest limit; the test and Form 8990 are in switching from cash to accrual accounting.
Can a note that converts automatically lose its interest deduction?
This point is unsettled. Section 163(l) denies any deduction for interest on a corporation's debt "payable in equity of the issuer". Debt counts as payable in equity if "a substantial amount of the principal or interest is required to be paid or converted, or at the option of the issuer or a related party is payable in, or convertible into, such equity". A holder's option counts if "there is a substantial certainty the option will be exercised". The Form 1120 line 18 instructions list this rule.
Most startup notes convert automatically at the next priced round. No regulation or ruling applies section 163(l) to those notes, so there is no settled answer. The deduction can be large and often adds to a loss carried into later years, so the position taken on the first return needs a CPA's judgment.
Can we deduct the legal fees for the round?
Not right away. Reg. 1.263(a)-5(a) requires capitalizing amounts paid to facilitate a stock issuance, a borrowing, or writing an option.
- SAFE round costs are capitalized whichever way the SAFE is read. The regulation leaves recovery of stock issuance costs "[Reserved]" (Reg. 1.263(a)-5(g)(3)) and provides no later deduction for them.
- Note round costs are debt issuance costs. They are deducted over the note's term as if they were extra OID (Reg. 1.446-5). What happens to any unrecovered balance when the note converts should be checked.
Do we send note holders a Form 1099?
Yes for most individual and fund holders. An issuer of notes with OID files Form 1099-OID for each holder whose OID for the year is at least $10. Interest on notes in registered form (transfers are recorded in the company's register of holders) goes on Form 1099-INT at $10 (instructions). Corporations are exempt recipients. Holders abroad get Form 1042-S instead. SAFE holders get no Form 1099, since a SAFE pays no interest. Holders report OID each year even if it is later paid in shares.
What happens on our return when the priced round converts them?
The company recognizes no gain or loss when it issues shares for SAFE money or for a note (section 1032). Four points follow:
- Cancellation of debt. A note settled with stock is treated as paid with money equal to the stock's fair market value (section 108(e)(8)). If the shares are worth less than the note's adjusted issue price (principal plus OID accrued so far), the shortfall can be income (Reg. 1.61-12(c)(2)(ii)). A conversion at a discount to the round price usually gives shares worth more, but check the numbers.
- The discount or valuation cap is not interest. A conversion counts as a repurchase of the note (Reg. 1.61-12(c)(2)(i)), and section 249 bars deducting a premium paid to repurchase convertible debt that is due to the conversion feature.
- Accrued interest paid in shares is still interest. It is deducted under the timing rules above; OID already deducted as it accrued is not deducted again at conversion.
- Delaware franchise tax. The new issued and authorized shares change next year's bill; see Delaware franchise tax.
What changes when a SAFE or note holder is abroad?
A SAFE pays no interest, so the company withholds nothing when the money arrives. A note is different: interest and OID paid to a foreign holder are generally subject to 30% withholding. OID is taxed to a foreign holder "upon a sale or exchange of the obligation or when a payment is made" (Reg. 1.1441-2(b)(3)(i)), and a payment needs no cash (Reg. 1.1441-2(e)(1)). A conversion that pays accrued interest in shares is a payment date with no cash to withhold from, so the withholding or the exemption form (usually Form W-8BEN or W-8BEN-E) has to be in place by closing. If withholding is missed, the company owes the tax itself (section 1461).
- Portfolio interest exemption. It can apply to a note in registered form held by someone below 10% of voting power, counting options under section 318, who gives the company a signed statement that it is not a US person, usually a Form W-8 (section 871(h)(2) and (3)).
- Treaties. Canada has an income tax treaty with the US; Taiwan is not on the IRS treaty list.
- Filing. Rates, treaty claims, Forms 1042 and 1042-S (due March 15, 2027 for this year's payments) and catching up are in missed withholding on payments abroad. Interest or OID paid to a holder abroad also makes Form 1120, Schedule K, question 19 a "Yes".
- Form 5472. A foreign holder owning 25% after conversion makes the company a reporting corporation; see foreign-owned C corporation filing. Whether an unconverted SAFE or note counts toward that share under section 318 is not settled.
When does a SAFE holder's QSBS clock start?
This is unsettled. Section 1202(f) gives stock "acquired solely through the conversion of other stock" that was QSBS the holding period of the converted stock. Section 1202(a)(6)(B) sets the acquisition date as "the first day on which such stock was held by the taxpayer determined after the application of section 1223". Whether a SAFE is "stock" for these rules has no IRS answer.
A second point is also unsettled: which rules apply to a SAFE bought before July 5, 2025 that converts later. The new three-, four- and five-year tiers and the $15,000,000 cap apply to stock "acquired after the applicable date" of July 4, 2025. The $75,000,000 gross-asset test, up from $50,000,000, applies "to stock issued after the date of the enactment" (Public Law 119-21, section 70431). Whether the company's stock qualifies, and its statement to investors, are in the QSBS guide for startups.
Example
All figures are in US dollars and illustrative.
$1.5 million of SAFEs and the first Form 1120
A two-founder Delaware C corporation is building a GPU cloud (a "neocloud": a cloud company built around renting GPU compute). In March it raises $1,500,000 on post-money SAFEs: $1,000,000 from a US seed fund and $500,000 from the venture arm of a Taiwanese server maker. By December 31 it has spent $700,000 on deductible costs and holds $800,000 in cash.
- Page 1 shows no income from the SAFEs. The $700,000 loss carries forward.
- Total assets of $800,000 make question 13 "No", so Schedules L, M-1 and M-2 are required. The SAFEs appear on Schedule L where the books carry them.
- Had the bank feed coded the $1,500,000 as sales, the return would show $800,000 of profit and $168,000 of federal tax at 21%.
$2 million of convertible notes at 6%
A liquid cooling startup on the cash method issues $2,000,000 of notes on January 1. They carry 6% simple interest, with principal and interest of $2,240,000 due two years after issue, and convert automatically at the next priced round at a 20% discount.
- Interest is not payable annually, so the $240,000 is OID. The de minimis amount is $11,200 (0.25% x $2,240,000 x 2 years), so the OID is not de minimis.
- The first-year deduction is about $116,600 (constant yield of about 5.83% with annual accrual periods), though nothing is paid. Books that show $120,000 of simple interest put the $3,400 difference on Schedule M-1.
- Each US individual or fund holder with $10 or more of OID gets a Form 1099-OID.
- Had the notes run 12 months, the cash-method company would deduct nothing until paid. Because the notes convert automatically, the section 163(l) question above applies.
$3 million of SAFEs convert at the Series A
A chip startup has $3,000,000 of SAFEs outstanding ($1,000,000 sold in June 2025 and $2,000,000 this year) and has issued $2,000,000 of convertible notes on the terms above. All convert into Series A preferred stock in September.
- The company has no gain, no loss and no deduction for the 20% discount. The OID that accrued up to the conversion is deductible on the timing rules above, subject to the section 163(l) question for notes that convert automatically.
- Its books move the SAFE, note and accrued interest balances into preferred stock and paid-in capital. Next March's Delaware report counts the new issued and authorized shares.
- If a Taiwanese strategic investor holds $500,000 of the notes, the interest that accrued while it held them is paid in shares at conversion. The withholding or an exemption form has to be in place before closing.
- The June 2025 SAFE's QSBS clock and tier are the unsettled points above.
Different for you?
- Founders wired money from abroad or lent it to the company: see putting money into your US corporation from abroad.
- Investors are about to start due diligence: see tax clean-up before investor due diligence.
- Founders hold vesting shares: see founder shares that vest.
- Your startup is Canadian and raising before or during a flip: see moving a Canadian startup under a Delaware parent.
- Notes convert automatically, a holder is abroad, or the round already closed without withholding: these need a return position and possibly catch-up filings; see data center and GPU cloud tax services.
Figures on this page
| Figure | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Form 1120 test for skipping Schedules L, M-1 and M-2 Both total receipts (page 1, line 1a plus lines 4 through 10) and year-end total assets must be less than this amount; Schedule K, question 13. Latest final Form 1120 and instructions are for tax year 2025. | $250,000 Tax year 2025 | IRS: Instructions for Form 1120 Checked |
| Form 1120 Schedule M-3 year-end asset threshold Total year-end assets, nonconsolidated or consolidated for all corporations included in a consolidated tax group. Latest published Form 1120 instructions are for 2025; qualifying filers may use Schedule M-1 for detailed reconciliation. | $10,000,000 Tax year 2025 | IRS: Instructions for Form 1120 (2025), Schedule M-3 Checked |
| Current-rule net operating loss taxable-income limit General limit on post-2017 net operating loss carryforwards applied to taxable income as defined in section 172; older losses and certain insurers have different rules | 80% | US Code: 26 USC 172(a)(2) Checked |
| De minimis OID factor Debt has de minimis OID when OID is below this share of the stated redemption price at maturity times the complete years to maturity (Reg. 1.1273-1(d)(2)). The issuer then treats all stated interest as qualified stated interest (Reg. 1.163-7(b)(1)). Installment obligations have special rules. | 0.25% | eCFR: 26 CFR 1.1273-1(d) Checked |
| Stock-value ownership threshold for section 267 related-party interest deduction timing Direct or indirect ownership of the corporation's outstanding stock value by the individual; section 267(b)(2) | More than 50% | US Code: section 267(b)(2) Checked |
| Form 1099-OID reporting threshold per holder Total daily portions of OID for a holder for the year; issuers of indebtedness in registered or bearer form issued with OID. Exempt recipients include corporations. | $10 | IRS: Instructions for Forms 1099-INT and 1099-OID Checked |
| Form 1099-INT reporting threshold for interest on registered notes Interest on indebtedness issued in registered form or of a type offered to the public; exempt recipients include corporations. Other trade or business interest has a separate threshold. | $10 | IRS: Instructions for Forms 1099-INT and 1099-OID Checked |
| Withholding rate on US-source FDAP income paid to foreign persons Applies to the gross amount of US-source FDAP income not effectively connected with a US trade or business; a treaty may lower it. Also the rate on pay to non-resident independent contractors for services performed in the US. | 30% | IRS: Fixed, determinable, annual, or periodical (FDAP) income Checked |
| Voting ownership that bars the portfolio-interest exemption for corporate debt Foreign lender owns at least this share of the corporation's total combined voting power | 10% | IRS: Publication 515 Checked |
| Forms 1042 and 1042-S due date for 2026 payments Form 1042-S must also be furnished to recipients by this date | March 15, 2027 Tax year 2026 | IRS: Instructions for Form 1042-S (2026) Checked |
| Foreign ownership that makes a US corporation a Form 5472 reporting corporation At least this share of vote or value held by one foreign person, directly or indirectly, at any time in the tax year. A single-member LLC wholly owned by one foreign person is treated as such a corporation. | 25% | IRS: Instructions for Form 5472 Checked |
| QSBS per-issuer dollar gain limit for newer stock For stock acquired after July 4, 2025; reduced by eligible gain taken into account under section 1202(a) in prior years and older-stock gain taken into account in the same year; compare with ten times adjusted stock basis; inflation adjustment begins after 2026 | $15,000,000 Tax year 2026 | Internal Revenue Code: Section 1202(b) Checked |
| QSBS issuer gross-asset limit for stock issued after July 4, 2025 Aggregate gross assets before and immediately after stock issuance; adjusted for inflation after 2026 | $75,000,000 Tax year 2026 | Internal Revenue Code: Section 1202(d) Checked |
| QSBS issuer gross-asset limit for stock issued on or before July 4, 2025 Older aggregate gross-asset limit before and immediately after issuance | $50,000,000 | IRS: Schedule D (Form 1040) instructions, qualified small business stock Checked |
Primary sources
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 1032
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.1032-1
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 163
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.1273-1
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.163-7
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.1273-2
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.267(a)-3
- IRS: Instructions for Form 1120
- IRS: Form 1120
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.263(a)-5
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.446-5
- IRS: Instructions for Forms 1099-INT and 1099-OID
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 108
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 249
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.61-12
- eCFR: 26 CFR 1.1441-2
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 871
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 1461
- IRS: United States income tax treaties, A to Z
- US Code: 26 U.S.C. 1202
- Public Law 119-21, section 70431
About this guide
Published by Cloud Accounting under standing professional approval. This version has no separately recorded personal review. It explains general rules for the tax year shown. It is not advice for your situation.
Changes
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